PUA Watchdog

I think everyone will be happy to know that we are feverishly working on our next Expose. (Hint: Having 8 lays over the course of over 2 years means you are NOT skilled enough to be an instructor.)

This post is both a preface to our next subject, as well as something that applies to all of our past posts as well.

At any point in time, we are constantly in the process of investigating multiple companies/individuals for future topics. As part of this research, we contacted the owner of one of the larger companies in this industry. This company is legitimate and has a very good reputation. The problem and reason we contacted them was their affiliate relationship with a very questionable instructor.

That conversation turned into somewhat of a discussion about the validity and usefulness of Bootcamp Reviews by the students.

There is an unbelievable amount of instructors out there who when challenged about their skill level and competency at instructing, point to their reviews and success and decry “My reviews/lack of refunds/success speak for themselves.”

Well, here is the problem. Nearly all of the students who participate in bootcamps are completely unknowledgeable about the topic of seduction. They aren’t skilled at it, they aren’t successful with women, and they don’t know what it takes to be good. This is the reason why they are paying someone to teach them in the first place.

The issue arises when those people start writing testimonials for the companies they took the bootcamp from. What most guys who teach this skillset won’t tell you is that getting positive bootcamp reviews doesn’t take a high level of understanding, skill, or competency. You are teaching someone who doesn’t have a clue what they are doing, so any instructor with more knowledge than a student can appear to be a “Guru.” As you may or may not know, most of the guys on the PUA Watchdog panel have taught bootcamps for a variety of the companies in the community, and they will certainly tell you that almost every company has instructors that shouldn’t be teaching others. They will also tell you that these instructors - which rarely actually have success with women themselves - are able to get glowing reviews from students.

That is the summary. Here are a couple portions from the email - some parts were added for clarity - that describe this in detail:

“The glaring problem with the community, and why illegitimate pickup
companies can be successful, is because inexperienced guys simply cannot
tell the difference between good information and bad information.

I’ve taught bootcamps in the past, and I know as well as anybody who
teaches them that in most cases it takes an extremely poor performance to
get a refund request.

Example:

When I and most of the other good PUA’s I know first got into the community a few years ago, I (we) couldn’t do cold approach. To me, watching a guy walk up to a random group of girls and talk for 15 minutes and have them laughing, getting numbers, makeouts, etc… at the time,
that would have seemed amazing. I would have relished the chance to learn
from someone who could do that.

However, that’s meaningless. I think you understand what I mean, but I’ll
provide the below paragraph anyways.

I started to see how misleading that can be when I got to the point where
I could talk to girls and get numbers, but I wasn’t actually converting
those to lays. However, guys from the local lair (NYC) would watch me and would
see me talking and getting numbers and makeouts and think I was getting
laid. That did not feel right. I wasn’t. But even at that skill level, I
could have easily sold training (I had people ask for training constantly), taught a bootcamp, and not gotten any refund requests… and good testimonials to boot, simply because what I
was doing appeared to be getting results. (which it was to a certain
degree, but there is a very big difference between what you see at a club, and
what, if anything, happens in the bedroom.)

Simply, someone’s reviews/testimonials/success at selling and teaching
bootcamps can be completely independent of their actual skill.
Furthermore, it’s in the contract that every attendee signs that a refund
request must be made at the bootcamp, and most students write testimonials
before they’ve actually used the training long enough to know if it
actually works. It’s unlikely they’ll revisit or retract the testimonial
once they’ve figured that out (if they ever do).”

So if infield perfomance and student testimonials aren’t accurate in their portrayal of an instructor’s skill level, success, or competency… how do you judge them accurately.

Well, the answer is quite simple. An instructor’s skill level can really only be judged by somebody who already has a high skill level and experience. Someone who has already gone through the journey, and who is getting the results, can easily tell the difference between a legitimate instructor, and a phony.

It was this experience and ability which allowed us to look past the 5 Star Youtube Rating and endless sea of positive comments of the SeduceInSeconds video which we exposed - and see it for what it really was, a fake. In fact, that in itself proves the point that new guys are simply not in a position to judge the skill and competency of an instructor (There were literally hundreds going gaga over that video, unable to see what is blatantly obvious to an experienced and skillful instructor).

Bringing this back around - This post has 2 purposes.

The first is to remind everyone that positive reviews from inexperienced guys aren’t worth the paper their written on. It takes experience, knowledge, and skill to make an accurate review or critique, none of which most testimonial writer’s posses.

We realized this, which is why we’ve hand picked a panel of respected, and most importantly successful PUA’s to have roundtable discussions on the topics we research. We make sure that those we discredit here are absolutely deserving of it. We make sure that those we discredit are frauds or liars. If it’s questionable, we simply rate it as suspicious. As this post explains, this is the only accurate method and viable method to judge an instructor’s skill and competency.

The second is to nip the “Look at our reviews,” defense in the bud. It’s meaningless and says nothing about the actual skill level of the instructor.

Until next time!

-Blaze

P.S. Watch for out next Expose… It will be up in the next couple days!

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